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Summary
Paul Wheaton and Alan Booker continue their review and discussion of the big black book,
Bill Mollison's Permaculture - a designers' manual.
Figure 1.1 Evolution from contemporary agriculture to permaculture p 4, 5
(introductory discussion)
Ideas for all kinds of technology can be designed with
permaculture. This diagram is applicable to more than just farms and gardens. 90 to 95% of people who come to permaculture from horticulture, 5% from things like natural building and alternative technology. Maybe 5% from people interested in design. Less linear, more ecological design
Permaculture includes any form of human technology. The permaculture mindset engages with complex systems rather than quashing them - work with nature, rather than against.
Energy and resource waste is not viable. Sustainable and regenerative systems of human habitation. All ultimately will have to work with nature to be sustainable, let alone regenerative.
What about cell phones? Can they be re-imagined to be more in line with permaculture? Or can we just ignore that aspect? Hard to draw boundaries about what is in and out of permaculture.
Heating homes is now part of permaculture. Can now be even warmer while reducing global
footprint, but 20 years ago there wasn't a good
answer. Maybe in 20 years we'll have a more permaculture answer to cell phones. Can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, so get good stuff done and don't worry about 1% not being perfect. "No true Irishman" or "no true permaculturist" rhetorical, aggressive fallacy. Let's improve technical solutions, not use thought-stopping rhetorical attacks.
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